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Helmets for bunny slopes?

#26 User is offline   LDEJARL 

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 04:22 PM

Dang. That actress died today. That's pretty sad stuff. Totally crazy a small fall on the bunny hill can lead to that.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(LDEJARL @ Mar 18 2009, 05:22 PM) View Post
Dang. That actress died today. That's pretty sad stuff. Totally crazy a small fall on the bunny hill can lead to that.


I am keeping my helmet on all the time now. Even on massive powder days when I am just on faces. Yikes... I feel for her family. Shes got a family of famous actors. In fact... the wife and I are about to go see Taken. Her husband is the star of that.

I guess the ski patrol followed all procedures and took all precautions with her. So, if anyone faults them or the mountain, f em.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE(bpm2000 @ Mar 18 2009, 02:13 PM) View Post
man every time that vid comes up i have to watch like 15 times and cringe every time. fuck these physical activities - im gonna stay indoors and pad my walls.


You'll definitely need padded walls if you stay inside forever...

I don't know, watching that actually makes me feel better about the crazy things I do, and the risks I take. It proves to me that toughness and agility -do- make a difference, and that every time I take a fall and walk away it's not just blind luck or the hand of god or some such crap.

Yes, this was a tragic accident, but that's what it was: accident. People die under more bizarre and pointless circumstances every day, they just aren't famous and beautiful. This is not to lessen the tragedy, but all I can see coming from this is more debate about helmets.

And, of course:
Richardson’s Accident Reignites Ski Helmet Debate

Actually, the article is pretty good...

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Helmets have been shown to protect the heads of recreational skiers traveling at a rate of 12 to 17 miles an hour, but typically not at higher speeds. Professional skiers and snowboarders, who surpass those speeds, are required to wear more sophisticated helmets.


Uh... what constitutes a 'more sophisticated helmet'? 17 miles an hour seems awfully slow.


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:36 PM

She was with a ski intructor on the bunny slop, Just sliped on her skis and fell. Weird part was she was fine after. they took her down and a sleigh and she walked away. It was not until hours later that she went to the hospital because she had a headache. right after her fall she popped up and said Im fine!!! But the instructor saw what happen and saw her hit her head and called patrol. they advised her to go to the hospital RIGHT AWAY to be checked out. But she didnt..
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:41 PM

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:52 PM

I sorta skimmed over it in the first reading of the article, but that bit about the German politician who was charged and convicted of negligent manslaughter when he hit a woman on beginner terrain, merging from an advanced run? Pretty bizarre, too. He was wearing a helmet. She wasn't. She died. He didn't.

What if he hadn't been wearing a helmet? Would she have died? Would he have been riding as fast? Why, exactly, was he riding the wrong way up a beginner run?



What's wrong with this picture? Was someone going too fast to make their turn?

I'm starting to wonder if I need a helmet just to protect me from out of control politicians... apparently many in Europe have decided they do.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 08:52 PM) View Post
I'm starting to wonder if I need a helmet just to protect me from out of control politicians... apparently many in Europe have decided they do.

this brings up a good point. There are handfuls of people that are out of control and risking injury of themselves and people around them everytime I go snowboarding.

Its the people that traverse accross a whole groomer. Go back to daisy where you can learn to ride without taking up the whole run please.

Or the people stopped on the opposite side of a rollover where they are impossible to see from above. I almost destroyed two guys earlier this year in the tye area at stevens at night. Jumped off a ledge on the side of the groomer going fairly fast. It was at the rollover. In the air there I realized on the tranny/downhill part of the rollover there were two snowboarders sitting right next to where i was landing. If they seriously wouldve been 6 inches to the left they wouldve exploded.

They were COMPLETELY HIDDEN from anywhere above. Anywhere. Later that night I saw them again and they were stopped smack dab in the middle of a run. The same two boarders. WTF. I sprayed the shit out of them with some frozen granular/corudory. I yelled move bitches, and they yelled wtf. They were so clueless of their own stupidty. I was utterly shocked.

So to say the least, I don't where a helmet just for protecting myself for when shit hits the fan, but for also when idiotic, clueless morons try to phuck my shit up.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:11 PM

Also people who are out of control above me, and can't control themselves at high speeds and they run into shit cause they can't stop on there own.

Blah I just dislike people who endanger others, especially people who are totally clueless about it.

I'll shutup now
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE(LDEJARL @ Mar 18 2009, 05:22 PM) View Post
Dang. That actress died today. That's pretty sad stuff. Totally crazy a small fall on the bunny hill can lead to that.


Dang, that skiboarding shit sounds dangerous. They should ban it.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:20 PM

a girl I grew up with had a brain aneuryZm while driving. She died.

YO I RAN INTO A POODLE AND BROKE MY SHIT
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 07:37 AM

QUOTE(duke of delridge @ Mar 18 2009, 10:20 PM) View Post
YO I RAN INTO A POODLE AND BROKE MY SHIT


True story, I was at a dog park with my Borderline Collie when a lady's own dog ran full speed into her knees and popped both ACLs. Those dogs r dangerous.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 07:48 AM

okay now I'm reading that she was "a genius" or something for that Patty Hearst movie. Hmm...

Lemme hit you with a snowboard accident story:
Dude was my roommate. He was an Indian from N.Dakota or something. He was learning how to rip snowboards, and we would meet up every day or so on the hill and do a run with him, showing him that you are supposed to jump gaps and mob. That's all you could do was mob, because they really had nothing steep (Breckenfridge). You mobbed and jumped cat tracks.

So yeah. At the end of the season, dude has finally figured out how to mob pretty good.

And he's mobbing. As he's mobbing past some skier robot chick, she geeks it somehow and falls right in front of him, in a london-bridge type on-all-fours situation (asexual). Dude rams right into her side, with his snowboard going under the bridge. Let me remind the jury that dude was mobbing.

He ripped both his knees apart. I think she got some broken ribs, but this dude's two knees got shredded. Something sliced something else and he had some gnarly blood-not-clotting in high altitude issues...forcing him to be airlifted down to Denver. I think that may have had something to do with his Indian chemical/spirit makeup--he was different. A month in the hospital. Of course no insurance. Man oh man that was gnarly.

All for mobbing, I'm sure he'd do it all over again.

Dude had a ferret as a pet. It was really dope.


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE(duke of delridge @ Mar 19 2009, 08:48 AM) View Post
okay now I'm reading that she was "a genius" or something for that Patty Hearst movie. Hmm...

Lemme hit you with a snowboard accident story:
Dude was my roommate. He was an Indian from N.Dakota or something. He was learning how to rip snowboards, and we would meet up every day or so on the hill and do a run with him, showing him that you are supposed to jump gaps and mob. That's all you could do was mob, because they really had nothing steep (Breckenfridge). You mobbed and jumped cat tracks.

So yeah. At the end of the season, dude has finally figured out how to mob pretty good.

And he's mobbing. As he's mobbing past some skier robot chick, she geeks it somehow and falls right in front of him, in a london-bridge type on-all-fours situation (asexual). Dude rams right into her side, with his snowboard going under the bridge. Let me remind the jury that dude was mobbing.

He ripped both his knees apart. I think she got some broken ribs, but this dude's two knees got shredded. Something sliced something else and he had some gnarly blood-not-clotting in high altitude issues...forcing him to be airlifted down to Denver. I think that may have had something to do with his Indian chemical/spirit makeup--he was different. A month in the hospital. Of course no insurance. Man oh man that was gnarly.

All for mobbing, I'm sure he'd do it all over again.


But... can he? Is he still riding? Kinda missed out on the happy ending part of the story here.

I stay as far away from skiers as I can. Yes, snowboarders have a blind spot, but skiers never even look uphill before they turn into you. Generalization, I know, but I still assume the worst. With skis you can get on some pretty advanced runs with only a few days of riding under your belt, and while I'm not saying you can't pick up skiing quickly (hint: it's easy) you may still not realize the dynamics of rider interaction on the slope.

Mobbing makes sense in powder. Riding vastly faster than the speed of traffic on a groomed run? Not so much.

You can endanger others by being stationary in the wrong place, moving too slow, or moving too fast. Sometimes I'll just wait out a herd of riders if a run is getting too crowded. Why even risk it?
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 09:45 AM

oh yeah I guess he survived to ride again.

mostly I just wanted to bring up that he was a Native American and had a ferret.


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 19 2009, 10:42 AM) View Post
Riding vastly faster than the speed of traffic on a groomed run? Not so much.


you have no idea how much fun it is to use skiers as slalom poles. Some of my funnest times riding were when I was more of a young punk and myself and 5-10 other riders would be mobbing down the groomers. Carving circles around scared parents and jibbonking everything that could be jibbonked. Ahhh, good times. When boardslides happened outside of the park on anything and everything.


I am a firm believer that not wearing a helmet doesn't make sense.

Especially for a beginner snowboarder. An edge catch can cause your head to hit the ice with intense impact.

That being said, I wear a skateboard helmet. It wont do shit if I hit a tree at speed, but it keeps my head warm and does add some protection without too much weight. My biggest concern is a rock cracking my skull, and this helmet I think would help pretty good with that.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 10:02 AM

I stay as far away from skiers as I can. Yes, snowboarders have a blind spot, but skiers never even look uphill before they turn into you. Generalization, I know, but I still assume the worst. With skis you can get on some pretty advanced runs with only a few days of riding under your belt, and while I'm not saying you can't pick up skiing quickly (hint: it's easy) you may still not realize the dynamics of rider interaction on the slope.

You can endanger others by being stationary in the wrong place, moving too slow, or moving too fast. Sometimes I'll just wait out a herd of riders if a run is getting too crowded. Why even risk it?
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*sigh*

Lots of generalizations I pretty much completely disagree with.

Snowboarding is SO much easier to learn (well, give ability to get around the hill.) than skiing it's ridiculous. That's why there are way more sideslippers up on double D terrain. (Yes, sideslipping is not snowboarding.) You rarely ever see a day two or three skier up on Chair two for example and loads of side slippers strapped in.

I will agree about the last part about waiting out the mob and boarders in particular camping out under rolls etc heading down the hill. Hate that. Sitting down even makes it harder to see coming down the hill until the last minute.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE(oldschool @ Mar 19 2009, 11:02 AM) View Post
sideslipping is not snowboarding.


WRONG!!!!


that said: fools get sprayed.

enough time on the hill and I've pretty much got all the types of sliders pegged. ...just have to be able to spot the insta-snowplowers and quantum leap twitchturners on cat tracks...they'll still get me (the only thing that's for sure about them is that they're unpredictable). Staying away is the only approach with the arms-out-statue skiers.



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Posted 19 March 2009 - 10:34 AM

LMAO!!! smile.gif

I could just fall down that, survive, and get 7th place!

At least it's nice to see Sketchy's sister getting some more on air time....
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 10:41 AM

They don't show it, but I got 8th place with my Mary Poppins umbrella/handbag combo. No snowboard necessary!


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE(oldschool @ Mar 19 2009, 11:02 AM) View Post
Snowboarding is SO much easier to learn (well, give ability to get around the hill.) than skiing it's ridiculous. That's why there are way more sideslippers up on double D terrain. (Yes, sideslipping is not snowboarding.) You rarely ever see a day two or three skier up on Chair two for example and loads of side slippers strapped in.


No, I don't see skiers on Chair 2 because I have yet to ride it. Not interested in endangering myself/others by going on terrain on which I have no business.

So. Fail.


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE(doughboyshredder @ Mar 19 2009, 10:59 AM) View Post
I am a firm believer that not wearing a helmet doesn't make sense.

Especially for a beginner snowboarder. An edge catch can cause your head to hit the ice with intense impact.


Did you wear a helmet when you were learning?

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:29 PM

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:45 PM

My point exactly.

I guess nobody read the article I linked to. Helmet use = way up. Casualty rate = constant.
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 19 2009, 03:45 PM) View Post
My point exactly.

I guess nobody read the article I linked to. Helmet use = way up. Casualty rate = constant.

If you are trying to say helmets are useless then you are ignorant.

My cousin two years ago, goes head to rock at whistler. His helmet exploded, he bit through his tongue, chipped a couple teeth (he is a dentist) and got a concussion. If he wasn't wearing a helmet, its pretty safe to say he wouldn't be doing that well right now.
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