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Helmets for bunny slopes?

#1 User is offline   Deprogram 

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 03:23 PM

Ok, I know this is only in the news because she's a celebrity, but:

Famous person brain-dead after falling on bunny slope.

Well, that's the article with the most info, there's some more (and of course rampant speculation) on Faux News but I'll be damned if I link to it.

My question is: would a helmet have made any difference? How the hell does someone fall hard enough on a bunny slope to do this kind of damage? Yes, definitely a shame, etc., but people die in the BC around here all the time and don't get any press.

Just bizarre. Along with that poodle getting loose and running around Alpy. What is with the rich and famous these days?



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Posted 17 March 2009 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
Just bizarre. Along with that poodle getting loose and running around Alpy.

Yeah, and what about the crazy german shepard running around at silver fir?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:36 PM

the safe word is Poodle..
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:55 PM

Who the hell brings a show-cut poodle up to a lodge in the middle of winter?

The kind of people running our country, that's who.

I'm sure something larger and hungrier has had it's way with it by now. I'm not a fan of poodles, but... that's just stupid.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
Along with that poodle getting loose and running around Alpy. What is with the rich and famous these days?


Ehh? Details please... details.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:13 PM

People fall and get hurt doing the most mundane things.

Poodle last seen way out in Alpy slackcountry complaining about the traverse....
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:51 PM

did the volie at the upper traverse give the poodle shit

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:06 PM

No, apparently the poodle was packing plenty of it's own....
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
How the hell does someone fall hard enough on a bunny slope to do this kind of damage?

Unfortunately, quite easily. Tear the right blood vessel, wait for the pressure to build and that’s all she wrote. You can do it falling any number of ways. Eight concussions and one bruised brain says I know what I’m talking about on this one sad.gif The last time I had a good crack on the head was slipping and falling on ice back East right outside my house. No one knows how long I was out, but it was at least 30 min. Result: bruised brain and I was messed up for days. (I may still be messed up.) I’d post the old CAT scan I have, but it wouldn’t be any more interesting than that shot of your shoulder smile.gif

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
My question is: would a helmet have made any difference?

No one will ever know…


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:37 PM

A friend of mine, who also did extensive three-day-eventing with me, fell off her horse at a walk-- not even doing the "dangerous" stuff-- and hit her head just right.

She was in a coma for 2 months.

Spent another 6 months relearning how to tie her shoes and make a sandwich. She was "lucky" though, her memories were intact so she didn't need to go back to school or anything-- just weird shit like, well, tying her shoes and making sandwiches.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 06:49 AM

QUOTE(aboynoir @ Mar 17 2009, 06:08 PM) View Post
QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
Along with that poodle getting loose and running around Alpy. What is with the rich and famous these days?


Ehh? Details please... details.


Well, someone brought a poodle up to the mountains, and it got loose:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29711493/

Of course this is headline news for some reason.

Amazingly, it appears to have survived.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2111-Tacoma-Dogs...mountains-found

Now if one of those helpful skiers could just find my board...
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:33 AM

If I was a dog and someone trimmed me like that, I'd run away too...
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE(oldschool @ Mar 17 2009, 06:13 PM) View Post
Poodle last seen way out in Alpy slackcountry complaining about the traverse....


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Must have been a boarder and got barked at by the patroller dude for postholing the upper traverse!
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:07 AM

I've been thinking about wearing my helmet more since this is the second person I know that has been seriously injured or killed in the last month. Riding in the trees was great yesterday, but I had to stop because I was getting too many face shots and couldn't see much of the time (and I know trees really hurt when you hit them).
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:42 AM

I dunno. I remember learning to ice skate and the first few times my head hit the ice - that was a fun feeling. I quickly learned how to fall so that my head was NOT impacting the ice. Let's face it, if you're playing hockey, you WILL fall. And yes, hockey players wear helmets, but it's not because they are at risk of falling.

Football is played with helmets, yet rugby isn't. I haven't been able to reasonably compare statistics on head injuries in the two sports. 'Correct falling technique' is cited as a injury reduction strategy in one paper on rugby injuries I found.

There's technique and muscle memory that comes with falling, just as with any other activity.

Ultimately, however, there does come a point at which the forces of physics dictate that no amount of agility or strength will save you.

Some people just seem prone to injury, too. Like, you take them out of the wrapper, and they break...
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 07:49 AM) View Post
QUOTE(aboynoir @ Mar 17 2009, 06:08 PM) View Post
QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 17 2009, 04:23 PM) View Post
Along with that poodle getting loose and running around Alpy. What is with the rich and famous these days?


Ehh? Details please... details.


Well, someone brought a poodle up to the mountains, and it got loose:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29711493/

Of course this is headline news for some reason.

Amazingly, it appears to have survived.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2111-Tacoma-Dogs...mountains-found

Now if one of those helpful skiers could just find my board...



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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:58 AM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 09:42 AM) View Post
I dunno. I remember learning to ice skate and the first few times my head hit the ice - that was a fun feeling. I quickly learned how to fall so that my head was NOT impacting the ice. Let's face it, if you're playing hockey, you WILL fall. And yes, hockey players wear helmets, but it's not because they are at risk of falling.

Football is played with helmets, yet rugby isn't. I haven't been able to reasonably compare statistics on head injuries in the two sports. 'Correct falling technique' is cited as a injury reduction strategy in one paper on rugby injuries I found.

There's technique and muscle memory that comes with falling, just as with any other activity.

Ultimately, however, there does come a point at which the forces of physics dictate that no amount of agility or strength will save you.

Some people just seem prone to injury, too. Like, you take them out of the wrapper, and they break...

I grew up playing hockey before helmets were even thought of and learned how to fall but it never stopped me from slamming my head snowboarding and not remembering driving home
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:03 AM

QUOTE(refried @ Mar 18 2009, 09:58 AM) View Post
I grew up playing hockey before helmets were even thought of and learned how to fall but it never stopped me from slamming my head snowboarding and not remembering driving home


SLAMMING ROAD SODAS AND NOT REMEMBERING THE DRIVE HOME...

HELMET NEVER HELPED MY MEMORY:




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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 09:42 AM) View Post
Football is played with helmets, yet rugby isn't. I haven't been able to reasonably compare statistics on head injuries in the two sports. 'Correct falling technique' is cited as a injury reduction strategy in one paper on rugby injuries I found.


A recent study also showed that all of those impacts (even with a helmet) causes serious and physical damage to the brain.

If you ever really feel like a flamewar, check out some of the motorcycle forums and scan for "helmet laws". Dayam.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE(refried @ Mar 18 2009, 09:58 AM) View Post
I grew up playing hockey before helmets were even thought of and learned how to fall but it never stopped me from slamming my head snowboarding and not remembering driving home


Yeah, but you made it home.

I'm all for effective brain buckets, but ultimately we aren't evolved to even survive falls from trees anymore. And the helmet debate rages in basically every field. However...

Anyone remember that Aussie skater who got mad air at some X-game event (or something of the sort, I don't pay that much attention), pushed off the pipe too far, and ended up falling like 20+ feet directly to flat? He got up and walked away. Definitely injured, ultimately, but still incredible.


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 12:21 PM) View Post
Anyone remember that Aussie skater who got mad air at some X-game event (or something of the sort, I don't pay that much attention), pushed off the pipe too far, and ended up falling like 20+ feet directly to flat? He got up and walked away. Definitely injured, ultimately, but still incredible.

He may have walked away but he probably couldn't add 2+2 for days
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 12:21 PM) View Post
Anyone remember that Aussie skater who got mad air at some X-game event (or something of the sort, I don't pay that much attention), pushed off the pipe too far, and ended up falling like 20+ feet directly to flat? He got up and walked away. Definitely injured, ultimately, but still incredible.


You mean Jake Brown's fall? SrnJ3JyaekI


It was closer to 40 ft. Amazing he wasn't hurt worse. I wonder if they ever found his shoes.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE(Moses @ Mar 18 2009, 01:14 PM) View Post
QUOTE(Deprogram @ Mar 18 2009, 12:21 PM) View Post
Anyone remember that Aussie skater who got mad air at some X-game event (or something of the sort, I don't pay that much attention), pushed off the pipe too far, and ended up falling like 20+ feet directly to flat? He got up and walked away. Definitely injured, ultimately, but still incredible.


You mean Jake Brown's fall? SrnJ3JyaekI


It was closer to 40 ft. Amazing he wasn't hurt worse. I wonder if they ever found his shoes.


that is very similar to some menopausal paris hilton falling over while skiing now I know that I'm buying five helmets on backcountry.com
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE(Moses @ Mar 18 2009, 01:14 PM) View Post
You mean Jake Brown's fall?

It was closer to 40 ft. Amazing he wasn't hurt worse. I wonder if they ever found his shoes.


Yup. The announcers say -50- feet. I guess the lip of the QP is at 30 feet.

Watch him fall. He gets his feet down and then rotates his body 180 degrees, so he falls -backwards-.

What an athlete.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:13 PM

man every time that vid comes up i have to watch like 15 times and cringe every time. fuck these physical activities - im gonna stay indoors and pad my walls.
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